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Re:What is Truth? Self Realization vs Soul Transformation 06 May 2011 20:12 #4457

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Buddhism is a philosophy of what is called mindfulness or looking inward which is why the Dahli Lama is not an advocate of prayer, which looks outward to diety. Essentially this is the difference between self realization and soul transformation. To put in simpler terms, natural love vs divine love progression. Jesus says it is not in who we are that is momentous but in what we can become as a Divine soul. Jesus speaks to the re-birth of the human soul through transformation. Buddha speaks to the realization of our natural perfection without the need for becoming something other than what we were created. Buddhism teaches the Middle Way or the way of moderation in all things and modeling virtue and compassion in our thoughts and behavior that brings to the seeker, peace and happiness. This is a path not contingent upon a relationship with God.

Jesus speaks for God's Divine Love as the great agent of transformation that is discovered through prayer for it's bestowal into our soul. It is not dependent upon righteous living or following a matrix of morality or virtue to create the intention in the heart to be compassionate and loving. The impetus here is not mindfulness or being mindful to be loving but an at-onement with Love of the highest kind, of diety, that merges our heart with the heart of God as we become the personification of love and compassion through the soul's transformation.

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Re:What is Truth? Self Realization vs Soul Transformation 07 May 2011 16:33 #4458

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Dan wrote:

Jesus speaks for God's Divine Love as the great agent of transformation that is discovered through prayer for it's bestowal into our soul. It is not dependent upon righteous living or following a matrix of morality or virtue to create the intention in the heart to be compassionate and loving. The impetus here is not mindfulness or being mindful to be loving but an at-onement with Love of the highest kind, of diety, that merges our heart with the heart of God as we become the personification of love and compassion through the soul's transformation.


If self-realization helps to awaken a soul to seek for truth and love, then that's a good thing. However, the fact that some Buddhists don't believe there is a God, well, that's a difficult one to digest.

The beauty of Jesus' teachings is that soul transformation by God's Divine Love is virtually an effortless exercise, because when our souls receive a certain degree of this Love, a mental prayer is not even necessary... rather, our soul does the longing and then into our soul the Divine Love flows.

Wouldn't it be awesome if everyone of God's children here on earth and in the spirit world would know of this simple concept and then just do it, then there really would be peace on earth and goodwill towards each other.

The Divine Love of the Father Will Not Only Make Man an Inhabitant of the Father's Kingdom

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Re:What is Truth? 07 May 2011 16:58 #4459

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Hi dear friends of Divine Love:

Definitely every day I discover pearls and diamonds of the highest quality. Joan has wisely led to a topic, and what item!

Buddhism is not a religion. It is a philosophy that teaches and promotes self-realization of human beings, by their own forces, that is, through the meditation internalize us with ego internal and thus achieve our moral and ethical development. Far are our beloved Buddhist brethren of the Truth, that such a good hour has come down to us. For this reason, we must give thanks to God for having sent our beloved Master and Leader Jesus, so we reveal the truths about the transformation of the natural love in a love of the highest qualities, that is, in a divine love.

Wise have been all the words and phrases written by Dan, and I'm going to take them with the permission of Dan, in a job that I have been doing on the Grace of God.

I wish you beloved Dan, that "self-realization vs. the transformation of the soul", is what the heavenly angels you have revealed, is really simple, simple, "alive and effective, more sharper than a two-edged sword" as mentioned by the Christian Bible (Hebrews 4: 12).

With my eternal love, a brother and a friend in Christ,

Alberto


Hola amados amigos del Amor Divino:

Definitivamente todos los días descubro perlas y diamantes de las más altas calidades. Joan ha provocado sabiamente un tema, ¡y qué tema!

El budismo no es una religión. Es una filosofía que enseña y promueve la autorrealización del ser humano, por sus propias fuerzas, es decir, mediante la meditación interiorizarnos con el yo interno y de esta manera lograr nuestro desarrollo moral y ético. Lejos están nuestros amados hermanos budistas de la Verdad, que a tan buena hora ha llegado a nosotros. Por ello, debemos darle gracias a Dios por haber enviado a nuestro amado Maestro y Líder Jesús, para que nos revelara las verdades acerca de la transformación del amor natural en un Amor de las más altas cualidades, es decir en un Amor Divino.

Sabias han sido todas las palabras y frases escritas por Dan, y voy a tomarlas con el permiso de Dan, en un trabajo que vengo haciendo acerca de la Gracia de Dios.

Quiero expresarte amado Dan, que “la autorrealización vs la transformación del alma”, es lo que lo Ángeles Celestiales te han revelado, es la verdad simple, sencilla, “viva y eficaz, más cortante que espada de doble filo”, como menciona la Biblia cristiana (Hebreos 4:12).

Con mi amor eterno, un hermano y amigo en Cristo,

Alberto

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Self Reliance vs Faith in God 09 May 2011 13:22 #4465

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Dear Alberto and Joan,

Thank you for sharing your views too on Buddhism. After reading your posts a word started jumping around in my mind; self reliance. Interestingly when I typed in Buddhism Self Reliance on Google that self reliance is the second highest tenant of Buddhism next to the Law of Change. And when I went to Websters Dictionary, after self there is over 300 definitions begining with self abandonment to self worship. So here we have it that Buddhism honors self reliance or self dependance as ones highest virtue without the need for the help of an indermediary such as God.

This leads me to this conclusion regarding the differences between Buddah's and Jesus' teachings; self reliance vs faith in God. Buddah teaches that the only way to Nirvana is through self reliance or self dependance as a self made man or woman. This ideology admits of no outside help such as that of God or angel to intervene in one's life as outside help in one's progression and enlightenment.

Jesus, teaches a completely oppositional ideology that places God and not man as the center of the universe and that our fall from perfection is because of self dependance and independance from God. It is because of a lack of faith in God and becoming self reliant that we have become seperated from God and have lost our way and have lost the advantages of the help and blessings that come through having a relationship with God. God is the great principal in this universe as we are only created beings and not objects of self worship. Until humankind can learn this fact and humble himself and acknowledge that he is helpless without the help and Love of God to purify him of that which seperates him from his own happiness and joy that the road to his own Nirvana of Heaven will be long waiting and difficult.

Jesus was born about 600 years after Buddah and heralded in a new plan from God that superceded self reliance by following ethics and morality as our highest good but one of turning to God and accepting a new gift offered by God that trancended self. Jesus called this the New Birth of the human soul whereby through the principal of suffusion our soul can become filled by an outside substance called Divine Love through prayer and desire for its inflowing into us and thereby become transformed into the essence of God; His Divine Love. It takes a faith to abandon self to become enlightened and holy beings by looking to God as the source and substance of that which transforms us into beings of light and divinity. The choice is simple here regarding our future destiny; self reliance or faith in God. Which will you choose?

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Dan

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Re:Self Reliance vs Faith in God 10 May 2011 13:54 #4466

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In a message from James to James E. Padgett, he writes that the followers of Buddha and several other religious sect leaders, who do not possess God's Divine Love, congregate together in the spheres below the Celestial Heavens.

"Let me tell you a few things concerning the spirit world, that is the world that is below the Celestial Heavens of which John wrote.

In the several spheres, which are seven in numbers, are many planes, inhabited by spirits of many nations and races of mankind, and these various races have to a certain extent the customs and beliefs that they had when on earth. The lines of demarcation are just as strictly drawn as are those of the several nations on earth. The result of this, that many spirits who live in this exclusive manner never learn anything other than what their own leaders tell them and what their various sacred books may teach them.

The Mohammedan is a Mohammedan still, and so likewise the followers of Zoroaster, and also those of Buddha and of Confucius, and all of the various founders of religious sects....

No founder of any race or sect has ever taught the New Birth, or the inflowing of the Divine Love in contradistinction to that of the natural love. And the teachings of Jesus are the only ones that reveal to man the existence of this Divine Love, and how to obtain it. So you see the importance of this Truth coming to man. I must say here, that without the possession of this Love no spirit can enter the Celestial Spheres."

Condition of spirits and their experiences and beliefs that are below the Celestial Heavens; how they congregate together

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Re:Self Reliance vs Faith in God 10 May 2011 14:02 #4467

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Yesterday, a spirit asked me the question, why can't we do both, seek a life of virtue and goodness and also seek God's Divine Love? That's a good question and is most likely the condition of most of us when we eventually discover God's Divine Love. In other words, previous to our own personal experience in receiving God's Divine Love (for those who have sought and found it), we most likely have followed the Golden Rule of Life. The Golden Rule is to treat others as you would like to be treated, with dignity, respect and love. This unwritten rule is univeral among all cultures and is the intrinsic natural love of our creation, of man for man (man for woman/woman for man). This humanistic love requires no intervention by God and is our birthright and a gift from the Almighty.

Sometimes, I hear the conversations about someone who has died and they speak about the deceased goodness. They say he or she was a good man or a good woman, never spoke unkindly about anyone, never hurt another human being, helped their neighbor, didn't take to drugs or alcohol or use obscene or profane language. Some of the spirits who wrote through James Padgett in the early nineteen hundreds were such individuals as they were good people who may have lived a clean life and yet they spoke to their spiritual poverty and how that affected their soul's condition and destiny in the spirit world. In other words, despite the fact that they were a nice guy or woman who lived a fairly clean and moral life, they found themselves at a great disadvantage when they passed over because they neglected to develop their spiritual nature or soul if you will.

Yes, some of us do seek both the life of a good man or woman and seek God's Divine Love because we come from an independent spirit seeking at-onement with God through His Divine Love. All of us still monitor our behavior and thoughts and try to avoid that which is disharmonious and seek to pattern our behavior in ways that are more loving. This self effort is required in the begining of our spiritual development as we come from various levels of disharmony and seek a place of love and peacefulness within. Eventually though we will abandon self and self effort and throw all our eggs into one basket and depend not on self but upon God, for everything. Yes we can do both, and we all do both for now; seek our natural love perfection and Divine Love transformation. Eventually though, the Divine Love will supercede our natural love and we will turn to God in an unceasing prayer and desire for His Divine Love. This is when our soul will supercede our mind and the inclinations of our heart will need no thought towards righteous action and behavior as manifesting our love will be as natural as breathing the air. We will become the personification of God's Divine Love and achieve the highest level of soul development; At-onement with God.

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